lenovo ideapad 15ARH015 might be power braking

voxell

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I've been having random thermal-throttling-looking performance drops in the last month so I dumped some info in HWiNFO64 when I was having the issue. Here's the diff of both dumps:
(- minuses are problematic dump, + pluses are normal dump)
Diff:
- <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[General Information]</I>
- <TR><TD><TD>CPU Power Limit 1 (Long Duration)/Processor Base Power (PBP):<TD>Power = 6.00 W, Time = 30.00 sec [Unlocked]
- <TR><TD><TD>CPU Power Limit 2 (Short Duration)/Maximum Turbo Power (MTP):<TD>Power = 6.00 W [Unlocked]
- <TR><TD><TD>CPU Current:<TD>399.3 MHz = 4.00 x 99.8 MHz @ 0.7312 V
- <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[PCI Express]</I>
- <TR><TD><TD>Current Link Speed:<TD>2.5 GT/s
- <TR><TD><TD>L0s Exit Latency:<TD>256 - 512 ns
- <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[PCI Express]</I>
- <TR><TD><TD>Current Link Speed:<TD>2.5 GT/s
- <TR><TD><TD>Active State Power Management (ASPM) Status:<TD>L0s and L1 Entry
- <TR><TD><TD>L0s Exit Latency:<TD>256 - 512 ns
- <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[Features]</I>
- <TR><TD><TD CLASS="dn">Bus Mastering:<TD CLASS="dn">Disabled
- <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[Video Card]</I>
- <TR><TD><TD>Video Bus:<TD>PCIe v3.0 x16 (8.0 GT/s) @ x8 (2.5 GT/s)
- <TR><TD><TD>Graphics Processor Clock:<TD>300.0 MHz
- <TR><TD><TD>Video Unit Clock:<TD>540.0 MHz
- <TR><TD><TD>Graphics Memory Clock:<TD>101.2 MHz (Effective 810.0 MHz)
- <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[Performance]</I>
- <TR><TD><TD>Graphics Processor Clock:<TD>200.0 MHz
- <TR><TD><TD>Graphics Memory Clock:<TD>400.0 MHz (Effective 800.0 MHz)

+ <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[General Information]</I>
+ <TR><TD><TD>CPU Power Limit 1 (Long Duration)/Processor Base Power (PBP):<TD>Power = 54.00 W, Time = 30.00 sec [Unlocked]
+ <TR><TD><TD>CPU Power Limit 2 (Short Duration)/Maximum Turbo Power (MTP):<TD>Power = 65.00 W [Unlocked]
+ <TR><TD><TD>CPU Current:<TD>4267.3 MHz = 42.75 x 99.8 MHz @ 1.4125 V
+ <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[PCI Express]</I>
+ <TR><TD><TD>Current Link Speed:<TD>8.0 GT/s
+ <TR><TD><TD>L0s Exit Latency:<TD>512 ns - 1 us
+ <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[PCI Express]</I>
+ <TR><TD><TD>Current Link Speed:<TD>8.0 GT/s
+ <TR><TD><TD>Active State Power Management (ASPM) Status:<TD>Disabled
+ <TR><TD><TD>L0s Exit Latency:<TD>512 ns - 1 us
+ <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[Features]</I>
+ <TR><TD><TD CLASS="dn">Bus Mastering:<TD CLASS="dn">Enabled
+ <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[Video Card]</I>
+ <TR><TD><TD>Video Bus:<TD>PCIe v3.0 x16 (8.0 GT/s) @ x8 (8.0 GT/s)
+ <TR><TD><TD>Graphics Processor Clock:<TD>1350.0 MHz
+ <TR><TD><TD>Video Unit Clock:<TD>1245.0 MHz
+ <TR><TD><TD>Graphics Memory Clock:<TD>1500.2 MHz (Effective 12002.0 MHz)
+ <TR><TD CLASS="ds" COLSPAN=3><I>[Performance]</I>
+ <TR><TD><TD>Graphics Processor Clock:<TD>400.0 MHz
+ <TR><TD><TD>Graphics Memory Clock:<TD>1200.0 MHz (Effective 2400.0 MHz)

I'm suspecting power braking but I've never really seen my temparatures go up that much. This happened like 4 times since the last month. Only happens when playing games for a while. After the problem, even Windows starts struggling to do stuff, such as alt+tabbing or opening file explorer.
 

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You need to watch the sensors screen to determine what's going on. Notebooks can reduce performance/clocks also based on so-called skin-temperature limits (e.g. that your keyboard won't become too hot due to heat transfer from hot components inside).
 
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You need to watch the sensors screen to determine what's going on. Notebooks can reduce performance/clocks also based on so-called skin-temperature limits (e.g. that your keyboard won't become too hot due to heat transfer from hot components inside).
I don't really understand the sensors screen too much, but I know for a fact that these 31714742117056.png on the CPU section were set to No when the throttling happened. I wish I checked the others too.

I've updated the post with the complete dumps for further research. It may have the relevant sensor info in the lagging dump.
 
Then you need to check other limits (best those in %) if any of them reaches >=100%.
 
Fortunately I was able to reproduce the issue by overheating my laptop intentionally. Here are the GPU throttling sensors:
Attached zip file is the sensor log. It seems to happen multiple times, but I noticed the one towards the end of the log.
Gpu thermal limits suggest a temparature of 87 degrees, and sensors have observed a maximum temparature of over 90.
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