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    Strange readouts after unfolding minimized window of HWInfo

    EDIT the above I changed my initial statement that the screenshot looks normal
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    Strange readouts after unfolding minimized window of HWInfo

    That looks more normal but its not. Still some zero(s) were they shouldn't be. For example minimum Core Usage/Utility. minimum Average Active Cores. And that minimum Core C0 Residency... How none core is active even for a fraction of a sec... Minimum descreet clock is not suppose to show base...
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    Strange readouts after unfolding minimized window of HWInfo

    Always enabled long time now, I will try also without, but I got to install back the 5900X and this could take a couple of days. R5 3600 is doing this very rarely but 5900X was like every time since this came up.
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    Strange readouts after unfolding minimized window of HWInfo

    I have the exact same issue with my 5900X and also tried my “old” R5 3600. The 3600 is producing same readings but not so often or as easily as the R9 5900X. 5900X starts with zeroing firstly the effective* clocks some times within a few minutes (if not secs) and after this it can take 30 min...
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    how to read APU power consumption properly?

    Actually no... TDP is not the max power consumption of the entire CPU package (PPT) On 5000series CPUs designated as: 105W TDP have a default max limit of 142W (PPT) 65W TDP have a default max limit of 75W or 88W (PPT) I know for sure that 5600X is a 75W PPT CPU. I think that 5700 family CPUs...
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    Ryzen 7-5800X3D - Current Clock Speeds never drop below Base speed at idle

    As the thread about instant-discrete clock vs effective clock explains, what you see in Current/Min/Max/Avg Core Clock is the speed only when the cores are active (C0 state) Effective clock contains C0 and other C-states also like C1/C6 (Halted/PowerDown). On Eff-Clock you can see really low...
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    High temperature delta for 5600X

    Its false dont worry. All ZEN3 (5000) have max operating temp at 90°C. At that point they throttle and if they pass it shut down will happen, as long as the BIOS setting into PBO section about temp limit is the default (Auto). The first 3 temps for you (Tctl, average and CCD Tdie) at highest...
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    Help with PRD readings

    Yes it looks normal for both pump (has a fixed speed of 4000rpm +/-10%) and the fans that have a range of 500~2000rpm. The manual doesn't say much about the connections, but I think you got it right... Mine is completely different, but it is what it is... doesn't mean anything. 1. The...
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    Help with PRD readings

    About water cooler: What can I say, the numbers are saying that it might be something wrong. Or maybe your environment is too warm. Like I said your CPU never exceeds it’s all stock power figure (142W PPT) yet it’s temp closing at times the operating limit (90C) with a 360mm cooler. I operate...
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    Help with PRD readings

    I cant disagree with you on the complexity of things today. Nowhere near 15~20years ago. CPUs got a lot more complex in their function, so this requires a more complex management too. But surely that is the job of the board with the BIOS, and microcode, the AGESA... and windows of course. The...
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    Help with PRD readings

    Not really, not yet at least. I believe more and more that this is not CPU's fault. It seems that the board is keeping the CPU too jumpy on voltage and/or boost. Look closely my screenshot again down below from before at those red boxes and recreate a new HWiNFO to around 10-12min as you did...
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    Help with PRD readings

    Yes I saw it and I have a few observations about it, makes things a bit more clear, but I will get back to you later. I'm also making some points at my last (#15) post, so I will let you see that too. Even though I have the 5900X and you the 5950X, the 2 CPUs are (should be) very close on...
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    Help with PRD readings

    Yes, as it seems its common on this board, and probably not responsible for 80C in BIOS. Something else is causing this and more and more Im thinking about waterblock mounting.
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    Help with PRD readings

    Personal opinion (and some experience) is that any software created to control RGB can cause from minor issues up to serious problems, such as conflicts, interference or what ever else you may think. I do not care for RGB either, never did, but now days is kind of "necessary evil". I used to...
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    Help with PRD readings

    As a matter of fact I do not see anything unusual besides the high CPU temperatures. I can tell that you did some gaming(?) by the GPU metrics (280W GPU PPT..!!) After some web research I found that this board (MEG ACE MAX X570 and X570S) supplies the CPU in BIOS with values like 1.40~1.50V up...
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    Help with PRD readings

    Well this guy likes to cripple all modern features of a todays CPU (Dynamic behavior) because probably thats how he knows things from 15+years ago, and cant get his head around the complexity or the benefits of the dynamic operation. I recommend to all when I can to stay away from static speeds...
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    Effective clocks not correct on 1st cpu thread, 5800x3d + bclk oc

    If you have enabled the tooltip option, when you hover pointer on the Snapshot CPU Polling setting you can read (last note) that some per-thread values might not be visible. I guess this is how it works. ---------------------- Your answer is this: And what it truly means is that all the other...
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    Help with PRD readings

    Forgot to ask... Is there any change in how the PC feels to you after enabling XMP profile? Also what windows power plan are you using?
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    Help with PRD readings

    Glad to help on 1 issue! I think there is indeed something going on... It is unacceptable for the CPU to be supplied with 1.4V while you're in BIOS and its speed is 3.6GHz My previous R5 3600 and my current 5900X both worked at base clock speed in BIOS (like yours) BUT with 1.0V and not 1.4V...
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    Help with PRD readings

    Also its best (theoretically) for your board to have the latest stable BIOS (from MSI) Windows should be having the latest AM4 chipset drivers from AMD directly, not MSI. https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570 There is 1 for X570/X570S
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